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		<title>By: Zareh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zareh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 15:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mchael says &quot;especially because Armenians were all too happy to kill innocent Jews living in the region, when they were not killing Muslims during and before World War I.&quot;

This is a typical case of an individual acting like &quot;more Catholic than the Pope&quot;.

This is a new push by the Turkish government, and their denialist cronies to desperately find supposed  co-victims to show the world how bad the Armenians were and therefore deserved what they got. It is truly sad that this kind of vicious lies and downright anti-Armenian racism finds a place in any conversation.

How desperate can Michael be to fall for this sort of skulduggery.
One would think that Jewish historians, Jewish historical organizations and, no less,  the State of Israel would have issued condemnation for what the Turks have now started alleging a long long time ago. How secretly could have Armenians killed so many Jews that would have evaded the attention of scholars of a nation which has experienced Holocaust. 

Moreover, the most ardent defenders of Armenian Genocide are prominent Jews, including Deborah Lipstadt, a powerhouse defender of Jewish rights and issues pertaining Jewish past. I think she would know something about Armenians killing Jews en masse had it happened  outside Michael&#039;s overheated figment of imagination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mchael says &#8220;especially because Armenians were all too happy to kill innocent Jews living in the region, when they were not killing Muslims during and before World War I.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a typical case of an individual acting like &#8220;more Catholic than the Pope&#8221;.</p>
<p>This is a new push by the Turkish government, and their denialist cronies to desperately find supposed  co-victims to show the world how bad the Armenians were and therefore deserved what they got. It is truly sad that this kind of vicious lies and downright anti-Armenian racism finds a place in any conversation.</p>
<p>How desperate can Michael be to fall for this sort of skulduggery.<br />
One would think that Jewish historians, Jewish historical organizations and, no less,  the State of Israel would have issued condemnation for what the Turks have now started alleging a long long time ago. How secretly could have Armenians killed so many Jews that would have evaded the attention of scholars of a nation which has experienced Holocaust. </p>
<p>Moreover, the most ardent defenders of Armenian Genocide are prominent Jews, including Deborah Lipstadt, a powerhouse defender of Jewish rights and issues pertaining Jewish past. I think she would know something about Armenians killing Jews en masse had it happened  outside Michael&#8217;s overheated figment of imagination.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael van der Galiën</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galiën</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 17:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Not to mention all genocide historians&quot;

That should read genocide scholars I suppose? Historians, you know, those who actually studied to become historians, don&#039;t &quot;agree&quot; on this topic at all. It&#039;s quite 50/50 actually, with some reknown historians saying that it was not genocide, such as Bernard Lewis. 

&quot;How many signatures would it take for the TDSB to deny the Holocaust? Well, it only took about 1200 turkish
signatures to deny the facts of the Armenian Genocide.&quot;

Funny that you would compare the two events with each other. Especially because Armenians were all too happy to kill innocent Jews living in the region, when they were not killing Muslims during and before World War I.

Of course, the two events aren&#039;t even remotely comparable to each other; firstly Ottoman archives show that the Ottomans didn&#039;t order the murder of thousands of Armenians. Instead, they ordered the army to protect the Armenians. Secondly, Jews were innocent scapegoats whereas your happy ancestors started rebelling way before world war I, and thus before the deportations (relocations actually). They killed many innocent Turkish Muslims, raped the women, if they were pregnant cut open the bellies and took the babies out, killed entire groups of wounded and ill Ottoman soldiers during world war I, occupied banks, occupied cities after which they slaughtered the Muslim population (in Van, for instance, they killed approximately 20,000 Muslims), locked Muslims up in Mosques and then proceeded to burn down the building with the Muslims in it, and so on and so further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not to mention all genocide historians&#8221;</p>
<p>That should read genocide scholars I suppose? Historians, you know, those who actually studied to become historians, don&#8217;t &#8220;agree&#8221; on this topic at all. It&#8217;s quite 50/50 actually, with some reknown historians saying that it was not genocide, such as Bernard Lewis. </p>
<p>&#8220;How many signatures would it take for the TDSB to deny the Holocaust? Well, it only took about 1200 turkish<br />
signatures to deny the facts of the Armenian Genocide.&#8221;</p>
<p>Funny that you would compare the two events with each other. Especially because Armenians were all too happy to kill innocent Jews living in the region, when they were not killing Muslims during and before World War I.</p>
<p>Of course, the two events aren&#8217;t even remotely comparable to each other; firstly Ottoman archives show that the Ottomans didn&#8217;t order the murder of thousands of Armenians. Instead, they ordered the army to protect the Armenians. Secondly, Jews were innocent scapegoats whereas your happy ancestors started rebelling way before world war I, and thus before the deportations (relocations actually). They killed many innocent Turkish Muslims, raped the women, if they were pregnant cut open the bellies and took the babies out, killed entire groups of wounded and ill Ottoman soldiers during world war I, occupied banks, occupied cities after which they slaughtered the Muslim population (in Van, for instance, they killed approximately 20,000 Muslims), locked Muslims up in Mosques and then proceeded to burn down the building with the Muslims in it, and so on and so further.</p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 23:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many signatures would it take for the TDSB to deny the Holocaust? Well, it only took about 1200 turkish 
signatures to deny the facts of the Armenian Genocide. Apparently someone forgot to tell the TDSB that the Armenian
Genocide is a fact and is also officially ackowledged by the Canadian Government as such. Not to mention all genocide historians
There is no room for denial and why the TDSB caves in to turks who are &quot;uncomfortable&quot; with the truth of thier own past 
is beyond imagination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many signatures would it take for the TDSB to deny the Holocaust? Well, it only took about 1200 turkish<br />
signatures to deny the facts of the Armenian Genocide. Apparently someone forgot to tell the TDSB that the Armenian<br />
Genocide is a fact and is also officially ackowledged by the Canadian Government as such. Not to mention all genocide historians<br />
There is no room for denial and why the TDSB caves in to turks who are &#8220;uncomfortable&#8221; with the truth of thier own past<br />
is beyond imagination.</p>
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		<title>By: jerry tutunjian</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerry tutunjian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 22:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every word that Patricia Aldana writes is the truth.

Human Rights activist, bibliophile, and yes, Armenian,
Jerry Tutunjian
author and editor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every word that Patricia Aldana writes is the truth.</p>
<p>Human Rights activist, bibliophile, and yes, Armenian,<br />
Jerry Tutunjian<br />
author and editor</p>
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